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  What should I say to Mom to really help her?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  anyone who is following my threads knows that i post most everything about my .

  wife's loyalty to the wts and the fade i am doing.

  i don't post much about my mother.. if you did catch it, i told her several months ago that i had stepped aside as an elder.. she had asked if it was a personal problem, then was it a problem with the boe.. i told her that it was a problem with the organization itself.

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  Otwo-- provide her with reassurance, plain and simple.

  Nothing you could say will have more impact than reassuring her that your love and concern for her will never change. Having legitmate reasons for fading away from the organization do not, and should have nothing to do with that, and I am sure from all you've said they do not. Anything that could interfere with that relationship, we know, is destructive. But it will take time for her to get to that realization.

  Say little unless she asks, and recognize the denial "he's still a good witness" is a defense mechanism. That's why the reassurance is so important. AND let her talk and really listen to what she says and process it. There is no more effective way to help anyone than to make them feel heard. Use the phrase, "what I hear you saying is...." and then reflect her thoughts back being careful not to add anything, then just continue listening b/c she will likely keep expanding on it. If not, just sit and reflect on that thought and give her the space to do the same. Hope that helps you. Be patient, it may take a while.
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  you are the evil slave class!

  by tula in

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  well, that's where this idiot tells my friend i am getting my information.

  so when did "apostates" rate a whole class of their own?

  i have never heard about this before.. this idiot is a jw wannabe.

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  emy the infidel

  History speaks for itself. (that's what I'd say)
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  Hanging out with JWs after you no longer believe

  by B_Deserter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's starting to become harder and harder to hang out with witnesses.

  all their talk about how evil the world is, etc.

  i was at a gathering last night, and this older couple was their talking about how their granddaughter came back because she got a taste of how the world was, her so-called friends were freeloading off her and stealing her stuff.

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  emy the infidel

  I'm with you Brent, "Most people do not have to deal with JW friends after they leave because they quickly find out they were never friends in the first place." It's good advice too to develop an independent support system before leaving. I was raised "in the world", and knew that what was said about worldly people was not true of them all, and not true of my family. It was easy for me to fade, and gradually my old family and friends saw that I was no longer 'under the spell' of the wts.

  It's hard to believe that only 6 wks. ago or so, a witness spotted me and snagged me before I could get away. We talked for about a 1/2 hr. He gave me a stack of new literature and told me about the "exciting changes" coming from the org., but other than the "koolaid watchtower"s he wasn't specific. I was considering going back, and asking my husband to go with me. But I came to the internet first, bought CoC-- which is a whole separate thread, and came here and found out that it wasn't just me. The circumstances, personalities and locations differ, but the stories are surprisingly similar otherwise. It's outta control from the top on down.

  Turns out my husband had been reading Watch the Tower and Freeminds for about the past 5 yrs. I had NO IDEA. He says he mentioned it to me once and I pointedly told him to never mention THAT again, and so nice guy that he is, he never brought it up to me again. That cult-like thinking still had it's hold. My husband was keeping up all along and wanted to tell me about the news of the org. We've talked A LOT in the past weeks. He's so glad I'm untangling.

  As for the witness fellow that snagged me into a conversation. He's a victim just like we all were. I don't think I could ever say anything about the truth of the truth. Knowing how frightening they are conditioned to be of such talk.
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  What's your favourite line out of a song?

  by lfcviking in

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  here's a couple of mine;.

  "eleanor rigby, waits at the window wearing a face she keeps in a jar by the door" eleanor rigby - thebeatles.. "there's a hole in my soul, you can see it im my face it's a real big place" feel - robbie williams.

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  Oompa you're a Parrot Head? I love that song too, Come Monday.

  "We can go hiking on Tuesday, with you, I'd walk anywhere."

  If we weren't all crazy, we'd all be insane....that one fits here too.
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  A beautiful wedding night shared by Christian virgins

  by sweetface2233 in

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  2. humour

  does anyone read "the onion"?

  i found this article and wanted to share it.

  did anyone have a similar experience?

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  LOL LOL "Holy Christ Almighty Lutheran Church"! LOL

  Sweetface, I read that years ago and forgot where it was. It's a good one. Maybe The Onion will do an update, and we'll find out if he ever, "touched her *** with his hand..." LOL
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  WERE HERE ANY DYSFUNCTIAL FAMILIES IN YOUR CONGREGATIOON?

  by badboy in

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  any takers?

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  emy the infidel

  LOL NYkid ! For a minute there I was back in a kingdumb hall and could see them all so clearly.

  The only addition I can think of off hand is a brother who had been inactive for years, came back to make the wife happy. Anyway, my friend had to catch a ride with him one time. It was the dead of winter, and she said he blasted the air conditioner the whole way. She froze. He told her used to smoke and the car still smelled from it, but she said it smelled pretty recent to her. LOL She wanted to tell him, look I don't care if you smoke, just turn the air conditioner off and put some heat on. We had a good chuckle over that. After she thawed out. It wasn't surprising, he looked like a disheveled Willy Nelson to begin with (!).
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  The most IMPORTANT preaching work ever

  by darth frosty in

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  is being carried out by two old women standing on the street corner looking like they are either waiting for a bus or lost.. .

  i was at work today and drove past a couple of 'sister's' doing street work.

  to my trained eye, i could tell that they were indeed witnesses.

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  Yes, that important life saving work. I was out in CA last week in a hispanic community by accident (the gps navigator malfunctioned), though I could've sworn it was Mexico. Anyhow, in front of a run down grocery store there were 2 old women holding up the mags, or rags if you prefer, with the same glazed expression. Guess that's the target market? There didn't appear to be any candidates for religious conversion in sight, but ya never know.
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  ATTN: Sign Language Jezebels! Get those hats back on! (BOE letter)

  by BFD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  once again i have been selected as the "chosen channel" of commnuication by an paranoid elder apostate in waiting to spread this divinely inspired information: .

  bfd.

  a recent letter to all traveling overseers and bodies of elders in the u.s. contains an interesting "change in policy".

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  How's this for modest? LOL
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  Sexless Marriages Could Threre Be a Direct Link by Being Raised JW?

  by okiesooner1966 in

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  2. relationships

  i would like start by saying i having been married twice.

  the first time i married a girl who was also raised a jw, sex was great when we first got married but after a couple of years it almost completely stopped.

  the marriage did not last much longer i thought it was because we just grew apart and i became uninterested.

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  emy the infidel

  Try Canadian Club and 7-up, it'll loosen you up.
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  "Stumbling Stones" in the congregation

  by JH in

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  i remember a brother telling me many years ago, that he could have bought a beautiful fur coat to his wife, but he didn't want others in the congregation to be jealous.

  that was the mentality back then.

  no one wanted to be a stumbling stone.. gee, today you see acuras and expensive cars all around the kingdom hall parking lot.

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  Good comments, esp. to Honest and Gopher --"The elders will use their authority to come down on you for any little thing if they don't like you. They can be such nitpickers, when it comes to OTHER people. Power trip !!" Or if one elder thinks you could be an easy mark, and starts hounding you, sticking their nose into everything about your life and wanting to question you incessantly, and 'be there for you'.

  I was dating a "worldly" guy. He was nice and decent person. This elder made up a story that this particular guy, who he didn't know AT ALL as the boy lived a good distance away, had a "criminal record". This was completely untrue. Moreover, had it been true, there would've been no legal way for this elder to have such knowledge. I pointed that out and demanded to know where that information came from, I wasn't as dumb as he thought. After all the harassment this controlling intrusive elder have put me through, that was the last straw.